Please answer two of the following three essay questions:
…a city with the worse laws, if immoveable, is better than one with good laws, when they be not binding; and that a plain wit accompanied with modesty, is more profitable to the state than dexterity with arrogance; and that the more ignorant sort of men do, for the most part, better regulate a commonwealth than they that are wiser. For these love to appear wiser than the laws, and in all public debatings to carry the victory, as the worthiest things wherein to show their wisdom; from whence most commonly proceedeth the ruin of the states they live in. Whereas the other sort, mistrusting their own wits, are content to be esteemed not so wise as the laws, and not able to carp at what is well spoken by another: and so making themselves equal judges rather than contenders for mastery, govern a state for the most part well. We therefore should do the like; and not be carried away with combats of eloquence and wit, to give such counsel to your multitude as in our own judgments we think not good. (Cleon, in Thucydides' The History of the Peloponnesian War, Book III, Paragraph 37, translation by Thomas Hobbes)
Explain clearly what the speaker is saying in this passage, indicating why it might seem a challenge to Plato's conception of rulership in the ideal state. Then indicate how Plato would respond. Finally, indicate whether you agree with Plato or the speaker, being sure to defend your answer.